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2) Michael Jackson - Thriller - (1983)

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No matter what your current opinion of Michael Jackson may be, there is no denying the sheer greatness of this video. When this first came out some 25 years ago, there was not a single entertainer on the face of the earth that could grab an audience the way Michael Jackson could. He was quite famous before this and remained on the top of the world for a long time after this, but there was no doubt that this period of his career was his most successful of all. Not only did the album this song came from sell more copies than any other album in the history of mankind, this video was the driving force behind its popularity. I could make a whole thread based on MJ videos and have no filler, but this one stands out so much more than anything else. Granted, this clip is more of a short film then an actual "music video" but it is what it is and that is the second greatest music video of all time.


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Thanks for the reply, although I think a lot of folks are going to disagree with my next selection. Not with the artist, mind you, but with the video I chose for that particular artist.


Weezer and Guns 'N' Roses, love those songs and videos too.


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This is a great video, thanks Sir Cyril.

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2) Michael Jackson - Thriller - (1983)


Man this song and video had so much going for it. John Landis doing his American Werewolf remake as a music video. Eddie Van Halen lending a little lead guitar work. Vincent F'N Price doing his ghoul rap. Undead dancing - very reminiscent of Blues Brothers street dancing scenes - also Landis. A music Video with a movie budget and crew. And - last but not least - Quincy Jones taking the helm on the music production on MJ's entire Thriller Album.

All I can say is #1 better not disappoint if this is #2.


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All I can say is #1 better not disappoint if this is #2.


Well, as I said before these last two videos both ended up with perfect scores of 100 so in the end it was a matter of personal choice. Also, I think the fact that the Thriller clip wasn't technically a short form music video hurts it on a list like this just for the simple fact that it has a sort of unfair advantage. In any event, by ranking number two on my list it actually comes in higher than a lot of other people place it now, some 25 years after the fact. When researching similar lists online, I rarely found Thriller in the number one position.


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I'm just sayin', it better be something special ;)


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I'm just sayin', it better be something special ;)


As if you don't know what it already is going to be! :lol:

I could post it now, but I still have almost 23 hours left before my deadline so I'm going to make you guys sweat it out in the meantime. Maybe we can get some discussion going in that case since this thread has been quite inactive as of late.


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Sir Cyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you are doing a great job, you are ZoNe MoNeY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love so many of your above choices, just not a fan of MJ, I never liked his high-pitch feminine voice.
I an not a hugh fan of the Thriller video, yet its ok. I personally think many of your other choices are much better
than this.

I love the Beastie Boys, Depeche Mode, RadioHead Videos etc...

Sir Cy, I can not wait :D, you are doing a great job.

Just one Q: Do you like any U2 videos?

ZoNe ThAnKs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I agree that "Thriller" should be on any "great ones" list. It might not be your favorite song, but the video is classic.


Its certainly not my cup of tea, but I gotta give credit for it.


I have a few guesses as to what number 1 might be, but I won't say until later.
I haven't followed this thread as close recently, so I would have to go back and narrow my list up I am sure...............


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Just one Q: Do you like any U2 videos?


I'm a pretty big fan of their music, but none of their videos really grabbed me all that much. I can't even remember if any U2 videos made my preliminary list of 250 to review before I made my final list.


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I have a few guesses as to what number 1 might be, but I won't say until later.


I'm sure at least one or two folks could probably guess considering what has and has not been shown as of yet...

So without any further ado...




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1) Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer - (1986)

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What can I say? As great as Thriller truly is, I just have to give the edge to Peter Gabriel here. Not only do I like this song better (which was one of my main deciding factors in making this number one) but I honestly believe that this clip has done more to influence future music videos. The use of claymation, pixilation and stop motion in this video were far and away the best anybody had ever seen at the time. In fact, it was Aardman Animations (of Wallace and Gromit fame) who were behind the special effects in this video and they later went on to be one of the best and most respected in the business. Rumor has it that Peter Gabriel had to lay under a sheet of glass for 16 hours while filming the stills for the video. In the end, I'd say it was time well spent as this is truly the greatest short form music video of all time.


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About f@%king time I saw this video on the list. Good call for #1


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In a day or two, I will list some of the more notable honorable mentions.


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SIR CY!!!!!!

Sledge Hammer is a great song, this was our song, my 1st GF and mine's. Many years ago.

THANKS, great choice, this video is waaaaay better than Thriller.


PS: Thanks for replying to my U2 Q, dude.Was Just curious :D )

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I had a strong feeling that Sledgehammer would be #1 and I can't say that I'm at all surprised. I need to run through the list again as I'm sure I've overlooked a few.


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I'm sure there are at least one or two videos on here that I doubt anyone has seen before. They are all here for a reason though, I assure you! The video for Rabbit On Your Headlights really flew under the radar back in the day (even I had never seen it until this year) but it is outstanding.


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The following I had never heard before reading this thread:

#46. Nada Surf - Popular
#42. Chemical Brothers - Let Forever Be
#39. Captain Beefheart - Ice-Cream for Crow
#35. Tool - Sober
#33. Radiohead - Just
#28. Aphex Twin - Windowlicker
#24 Foo Fighters - Everlong
#22. The Whitestripes - Fell in Love with a Girl
#16. Unkle - Rabbit in Your Headlights
#15. Fatboy Slim - Weapon of Choice

Since my primary interest and knowledge of music videos covers mainly anything before 1990, It's no surprise I've never heard the ones on this list. However, I am totally shocked that you would include a video from 1982 on your list that I have never heard of until now. I have an extensive collection of early 80's videos on tape and never new of the existence of Ice-Cream for Crow. The song didn't really impress me but the video wasn't bad at all.


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I'm sure there are at least one or two videos on here that I doubt anyone has seen before. They are all here for a reason though, I assure you! The video for Rabbit On Your Headlights really flew under the radar back in the day (even I had never seen it until this year) but it is outstanding.


Some of them I have never seen, nowadays VH1 and MTV are more on the reality TV kick than videos, so its hard
to see any on TV, these were real treats. I love Youtube!!!

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However, I am totally shocked that you would include a video from 1982 on your list that I have never heard of until now. I have an extensive collection of early 80's videos on tape and never new of the existence of Ice-Cream for Crow. The song didn't really impress me but the video wasn't bad at all.


Well, MTV rejected the video when the record label submitted it because they said it was "too weird" so the only way to have ever seen it before the days of the internet was at the Museum Of Modern Art or on the bonus DVD on the Captain Beefheart box set that was released several years ago.


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Also, I just did a quick count and 20 videos made in 1990 or earlier were included. So, roughly 40%. That is a pretty good ratio I'd say, especially for a 90's guy like me. :)


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Cyril The Thrill wrote:
Well, MTV rejected the video when the record label submitted it because they said it was "too weird" so the only way to have ever seen it before the days of the internet was at the Museum Of Modern Art or on the bonus DVD on the Captain Beefheart box set that was released several years ago.


That makes sense because I knew I'd never seen it on MTV, Much Music or any other video program including Nightflight, Radio 1990 etc... Just out of curiosity, How did you find out about it?


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Just out of curiosity, How did you find out about it?


I found out about it a couple of years ago when I was getting lost on Wikipedia which I am famous at doing. I ended up on Captain Beefheart's page and noticed they said he made a video for MTV back in 1982 and I thought to myself, "How the hell have I never seen that?" I then found a clip of him on David Letterman from 1982 where they explained about it and they showed a clip. After a specific YouTube search I tracked down Ice Cream For Crow in its entirety and was blown away. I truly believe that the video would have made a major wave on MTV back then since it was just so different than anything else that had been released to that point.


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SIR CY!!!!!!

Sledge Hammer is a great song, this was our song, my 1st GF and mine's. Many years ago.

THANKS, great choice, this video is waaaaay better than Thriller.


PS: Thanks for replying to my U2 Q, dude.Was Just curious :D )


And a great TV comedy series as well, now on DVD.


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Cyril The Thrill wrote:
In a day or two, I will list some of the more notable honorable mentions.


What a f@%king liar, this guy!


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In a day or two, I will list some of the more notable honorable mentions.


What a f@%king liar, this guy!


Eh - look at the source :P


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