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Ridley Scott's first sci-fi film since Blade Runner can be described only as a prequel of sorts to Alien because although it takes place in the same universe as the original Alien and has the creatures known as Space Jockeys in it, and explains why the crew of the Nostromo in Alien found the gigantic pilot/space jockey inside the derelict ship with it's chest burst open, it will not feature the Xenomorphs according to what Ridley Scott said in a recent interview. In other words the actual Alien we all know and love won't be in it, but HR Geiger has done some designs for some of the sets, so it should have a similar look and feel.

The short imdb synopsis for it says "A team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race." That doesn't really reveal too much, but it looks promising from what we can see in the two little trailers below.


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Ok...not bad. Looks like it has some potential. I was digging the weird space suits, and I hope they explain the origin of this whole space jockey/ship whatever the hell it is. I'd like to see alot of references to the original Alien film or the alien itself. This film looks to have the same Dark Sci Fi aspect as the Alien Franchise for sure.


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Ok...not bad. Looks like it has some potential. I was digging the weird space suits, and I hope they explain the origin of this whole space jockey/ship whatever the hell it is. I'd like to see alot of references to the original Alien film or the alien itself. This film looks to have the same Dark Sci Fi aspect as the Alien Franchise for sure.


Yeah that's my thoughts exactly, even if the Alien as such isn't in it, I'd like it to have a similar atmosphere, and contain a few references tro the original film.


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Oooh, looks promising to me. I guess we'll see soon enough if it's any good.

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I kind of like the fact that even though it looks to be a big budget blockbuster, Ridley Scott seems to have carefully injected some old school sci fi flavor. Hard to explain from a trailer really, but I love the spacesuits, the obvious technical aspects similar to the original alien films like the television screen cutting out like that, that blue tint. not sure if you guys know what i mean. Try at 0:18 of the second trailer that might help.
Hell it has a sweet ass flamethrower, so thats already a nod ito the films of the Alien universe :)


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I saw a different pirated trailer that was shown somewhere like comic-con online not long ago, and on that it showed what appeared to be the same spaceship that is a derelict in Alien, crash landing.


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Oooh! Sounds great! Really looking forward to this now. I just hope they do try and keep the look and feel of the original and don't succumb to the Hollywood 'Let us make is all nice and shiny and new' trap which messes up the whole mythos. Really pisses me off when they do that.

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Another little preview trailer with Scott talking about the film, but later today the first full trailer will be released, looking forward to that one.


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Getting quite excited by all this now :)

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Beware the Creeper posted this link on my facebook page, so I thought I'd add it here, it's the first proper trailer, and we do see the ship that's the derelict in Alien a few times in it 8) 34 seconds into the trailer we can even see a very brief split second shot of the Prometheus crew examing the skull/helmet of a space jockey, the gigantic creature that's discovered in the derelict with it's rib cage burst open in Alien, it's great to see these references in the first trailer :D


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Wow! I'm assuming that means 8th June 2012 is the expected cinema date?

That...

Looks...

Amazing...

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Actually for us in the UK it's out 1st June, so for a change we're getting something earlier than the US :D


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Fantastic! Just have to wait 6 months now :roll:

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http://www.empireonline.com/features/pr ... breakdown/

On the link above, empire examines the trailer shot by shot and makes some very interesting and intrigueing observations.


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Actually for us in the UK it's out 1st June, so for a change we're getting something earlier than the US :D


bastards! Ok...you guys deserve it. :P


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Actually for us in the UK it's out 1st June, so for a change we're getting something earlier than the US :D


bastards! Ok...you guys deserve it. :P


Thanks...I think lol


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Actually for us in the UK it's out 1st June, so for a change we're getting something earlier than the US :D


bastards! Ok...you guys deserve it. :P


Thanks...I think lol


At least you guys get US movies released there. I waited a long time for "This is England" cause I dig anything Stephen Graham does, but no theatrical release, but I just have to wait for DVD releases. Even those are difficult to come by. I cant even find all the TV sequels This Is England 86, 88 etc


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My advice is to get a region free DVD player and order them from Amazon.co.uk

I do exactly the same from amazon.com for US DVDs :)

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I can't wait to see this one even though I think the alien will not feature prominently in the movie. Also, they should have watered down the set to make it look like the original, in terms of space suits, etc.

Finally, what I'd really like is something like the upcoming Alien game, with squads of marines and humans fighting against an army of aliens. That is, Aliens, but on a larger scale, and one that will serve as an ending for the franchise.


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That is, Aliens, but on a larger scale, and one that will serve as an ending for the franchise.



I agree with this 100%.

When I think of "Alien" and the earlier movies, I have good memories basically.
I would hate to see a good series of flicks damaged by poor,later released sequels and prequels.
Whenever these types of films (and similar franchises) just seem to "keep coming back", they almost always deteriorate to the point of being unwatchable.





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I can't wait to see this one even though I think the alien will not feature prominently in the movie.


According to Ridley Scott, the Aliens/Xenomorphs won't be seen in the film at all.


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According to Ridley Scott, the Aliens/Xenomorphs won't be seen in the film at all.




Well, as far as I am concerned, there goes a huge part of the charm of the movie.
Looks like yet another one I am in absolutely in NO HURRY to go see then. :(



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I dunno I heard Charleze Theron is going to be in it.......... :clap:

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makes me kinda anxious, if you know what I mean! :D

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I know nothing about it because I am avaoiding the subject for the most part (I've seen the trailer).

I don't mind them avoiding the alien creatures at all. That's been played out anyway.

I hope Ridley Scott explores the civilization of the space jockey.

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My advice is to get a region free DVD player and order them from Amazon.co.uk

I do exactly the same from amazon.com for US DVDs :)


Or go to your local cities chinatown district and find a dvd/electronics store. They most always have them and are usually $29 ~ $35.00


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I will not be seeing this.


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I am really looking forward to seeing this over the weekend. The first two "Alien" movies are perfect 10s to me.

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I saw it a week ago, it's pretty good but not perfect, would have to see it again but I think I'd give it 7/8 out of 10, not as good as Alien or Aliens of course.


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I saw it yesterday. I actually liked it quite a bit and I think people spouting off about plot holes are those who wanted it to go a different direction. I like the fact that this was all about the space jockey but I will say that the ending took a lot of the wonder off them. They were always the most intriguing thing about "Alien" for me.

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Hated it. The story made little sense. If you plan to implant the first character, why not wait till you put him back in stasis or abduct him, instead of having him turn into a monster in front of the crew, alerting them to your plans. Scientists tasked for a mission are unlikely to get lost in the caves or tease a creature without concern for risk. Then, you have a creature from an advanced civilization trying to kill the explorer team like a Frankenstein wannabe. "Prometheus" is the biggest sci-fi disappointment for me since "I am Legend".


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Hated it. The story made little sense. If you plan to implant the first character, why not wait till you put him back in stasis or abduct him, instead of having him turn into a monster in front of the crew, alerting them to your plans. Scientists tasked for a mission are unlikely to get lost in the caves or tease a creature without concern for risk. Then, you have a creature from an advanced civilization trying to kill the explorer team like a Frankenstein wannabe. "Prometheus" is the biggest sci-fi disappointment for me since "I am Legend".


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What's the consensus on this movie??? Its been a few years since its release. Does anyone think there will be a sequel?? I always thought the movie was decent but far from being a classic. I kind of think its Ridley Scotts attempt to make Aliens lol.


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After a first viewing, "Prometheus" was a jumbled mess of speculative Science Fiction with healthy doses of frightening Horror. After a second watch, the initial findings are the same. On the one hand this is impressive Sci-Fi. It's high concept. There are some wonderful things to see. It is really one of the most visually stunning films released in years. The problem is that at about the 55-minute mark, things go south and fast. Up to that time, the story is pretty amazing. There's lots to think about. After that, the movie makes the Sci-Fi then Horror split. It's really pronounced.

Once David (Michael Fassbender) slips a little something into Holloway's drink, things get nutty. This Sci-Fi and Horror combo is nothing new. The same thing can be found in "Alien", but there's so much promise to "Prometheus". When it turns Horror, it loses what made it start out great. In fact, it gets irritating.

What is it with Hollywood and their fascination with the 1960s? "Prometheus" is set in 2093. Yet for some reason, the captain of the ship uses a Stephen Stills reference as a way to get laid. Vickers (Charlize Theron) admits to not knowing who Stephen Stills is but somehow, the innane, hippie anthem "Love the One You're With" scores the Captain free love. When will Baby Boomers ever get over themselves? It's over, okay. The '60s are gone. It's embarrassing that Ridley Scott put this into the movie. By my count, it would be roughly 130 years since Stephen Stills was first on the radio to begin with. It's just pathetic. Here's another thing...you've made an amazing discovery. The beginning of life as we know it. But you're horny so let's do it to Stephen Stills. The creators of life on your home planet that you've traveled for two years to meet can wait. Stupid. Then when the two scientists are left behind in the alien cargo area, one of them decides to start smoking pot through a tube that he has fitted into his suit. More stupidity. It's all illogical and it sets the tone for the remainder of the movie.

Thankfully, Fassbender and Noomi Rapace (Elizabeth Shaw) are excellent in their roles and the amazing visuals continue. Charlize Theron was also good as the daughter of Peter Weyland. The choices around Weyland being portrayed by Guy Pierce in bad age makeup aside, his motivation was understandable.

The third act is pretty exciting. The ending sets up a sequel and learning what David and Shaw find on their journey to meet their creators should be something to look forward to. That, along with the great effects of "Prometheus", made it worth the two frustrating hours spent watching it.

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