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So you get the #1 pick in the draft..................... who are you going to pull the trigger on?


This isn't so much of a strategy question, but more of a preference in my opinion.
I believe there are 2-3 rbs that are pretty close in #1 value.


I have a pretty good guess who Lazy might snatch up if he got the 1st slot, but there are a few others I am not sure of.



I will post my pick here, after a few others do, but I will give you a hint and say its probably not the most obvious, or maybe even the 1st or 2nd that many might pick.




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I honestly don't really know who I would pick at #1 -- the obvious choices I wouldn't look elsewhere than these 3: Shady McCoy, Jamaal Charles, or AP. I don't think choosing any of them would be bad. I did a mock where I was #2 and the first pick was AP I think, so I ended up going with McCoy. I really don't have a preference at that spot.

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All the above mentioned 3, are easily the top candidates, and its pretty much universally accepted.

The last 2 years I was extremely high on Jamaal Charles, and I was trying for him everywhere last year. (when I thought I could get him in the right spots) That paid off well in the one league I had him in.

For a variety of reasons, I am not as high on him this year.
No, I wouldn't turn him down at #3 if he fell to me, but he would NOT be my #1 pick.


I am going "old school" yet again this year, and I would take AP at #1 overall.
Yeah I know the mileage is starting to accumulate, but he has proven to be a great "specimen", keeping his body fresh and always staying in shape etc.........he is a freak athlete, there is no doubt.
He even had injury concerns late the last two years, but that isn't swaying me in a position where EVERY RB has concerns.
I also think the "new offense" and plans for him can be productive, and may keep him out of the line of fire somewhat also.

Simply put, every time you dismiss AP and count him out, he always comes right back to shove it straight up the non believers asses.

The reasons I am not so high on Charles this year (and to a lesser extent McCoy) I won't divulge just yet and will wait until the draft is over.


On that note- my draft strategy is going to change DRAMATICALLY this year, depending on where I am on the draft totem pole.



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Just dont tell me any of you went out of your way to pick a Cleveland QB...... :o

For the record.. I never got to join in on the draft.....so theoretically....based on all your choices...you guys MADE my playoff team when I was kicking your asses in 2011 :D thats a screwjob in itself. Careful who yall picked :shock:


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For the record.. I never got to join in on the draft.....so theoretically....based on all your choices...you guys MADE my playoff team when I was kicking your asses in 2011 :D



Which goes to show, that "autopick" isn't too bad.
In fact you could pre rank a few slight choices, and adjust the picks where you value you a few players higher than the computer rankings, and could end up with a decent team.... one that could be competitive anyway.
In fact thats exactly what I did my very first year, and I made the playoffs also.

Too bad SVB, your presence is missed in the league.....and DrMoreau also.


Draft is tonight bitches~! I can't wait.
As we have done in the past, I will try and be here on the board and in this thread bumping, an hour or so before the draft.
I know Lazy usually stops in too, if he can.



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Alright boys who is ready for this draft. I'm out for blood this year. 9th place just doesn't sit well with me (I think my kids are draining my fantasy knowledge who knows lol). But as always I'm looking forward to a great season - seems this league is always tight in the standings till the end.


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Not long now girls............................................. :oops:


I'll be check back here every few minutes until the draft room opens up.





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...to be totally dominated



Hey whit, I fixed your quote above. :dance:






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Is it just me or is Yahoo a bit slower this year in opening up the draft rooms.................. :(






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Is it just me or is Yahoo a bit slower this year in opening up the draft rooms.................. :(






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Nah, I think it's always half hour before draft.

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Lets hear it bitches.............are you happy with your drafts or not?


I wouldn't mind some more solid depth at RB, but generally I got most of who I was wanting. (and expecting too)







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Well, Yahoo only scored my draft with a C+ grade. It said I have the best RBs in the league. but also said "Spittin' Whits is the oldest and by default, least exciting team in the league."

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Well, Yahoo only scored my draft with a C+ grade. It said I have the best RBs in the league. but also said "Spittin' Whits is the oldest and by default, least exciting team in the league."

Go to Hell, Yahoo Sports...



Well, I have the lowest of all grades there.
But as I pointed out to Lazy, I have Josh Gordon that is penciled in as a zero, Ray Rice also which is slated to miss the first 2 games.
Not to mention I have several rookie RBs, and realistically all I need is ONE of those to be an rb 2-ish type, and I am good to go.
In fact I should be decent, once Rice gets to playing.

I don't know how the metrics break down exactly, and I think it doesn't explain, but I would be curious to see how I would have fared on their "grading system", with Gordon playing ONLY half a season (which many believe is what he will end up getting), and factoring in Rice.
That doesn't even count any half ass production from one of those rookies.

But that grading system is garbage and geared towards having multiple big name rbs anyway, and that just doesn't cut the mustard anymore in fantasy.

On that note, I was just looking through your team, and you have some RB firepower to spare.
I might be open to the idea of giving you Mike Wallace for Chris Johnson, is there is any interest.
I don't know if you are in love with starting Tavon Austin at WR each week or not.

I might consider that, if you are interested.......

EDIT- I went back and renamed this thread 2013/2014 PTE FF.

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More BAD news for the Atlanta Falcons. They lost their starting Left Tackle Sam Baker for the season due to injury. This will make the season DOUBLY difficult since we lost our best defender earlier in training camp for the season. I believe the Falcons will more likely repeat LAST season than the season before where they went to the NFC Championship game. FYI

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TO CREEPER-
Yes I saw about Baker, but their offense is still going to be much better, barring an injury to Julio Jones, or Roddy White again.
(Jones is just too much of an injury risk for me at this point)
So I still think they will be a better team, but their defense is going to let them down for sure.
BTW- I'm enjoying "Hard Knocks", I assume you are watching it??
(I normally watch it online, so its late night after it airs, or the next day when I get to see it)




TO LAZY-
Any decision on the payouts yet?



TO WHIT -
Guess you weren't even remotely interested in my "Wallace for Johnson" trade huh...........?
I'm personally not extremely high on Johnson really, but he may be decent for rb 2-rb 3 numbers.
I am just looking for another low end possible starter.... and realistically thats all he is at this point.





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TO WHIT -
Guess you weren't even remotely interested in my "Wallace for Johnson" trade huh...........?
I'm personally not extremely high on Johnson really, but he may be decent for rb 2-rb 3 numbers.
I am just looking for another low end possible starter.... and realistically thats all he is at this point.





Another interesting development to those rostering Tavon Austin.............
It came out minutes ago that Sam Bradford is out for the season....AGAIN.

I feel bad for Bradford, 2 years running with season ending injuries. :(

This makes me want no part of any RAM, unless its possibly the rbs.
Kind of sad, since I thought Bradford might finally have a respectable year.



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No decision on payouts yet. Still waiting for more opinions. I'm happy for the most part with my team, but I'm ultimately never comfortable.

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TO WHIT -
Guess you weren't even remotely interested in my "Wallace for Johnson" trade huh...........?
I'm personally not extremely high on Johnson really, but he may be decent for rb 2-rb 3 numbers.
I am just looking for another low end possible starter.... and realistically thats all he is at this point.



Another interesting development to those rostering Tavon Austin.............
It came out minutes ago that Sam Bradford is out for the season....AGAIN.


I feel bad for Bradford, 2 years running with season ending injuries. :(

This makes me want no part of any RAM, unless its possibly the rbs.
Kind of sad, since I thought Bradford might finally have a respectable year.



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I hadn't given the trade any thought yet. Too early...

I wasn't exactly banking on Austin anyway. That's a shame for Bradford.

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:wtf: A billion years of evolution...wasted on Fantasy Football. :ROTF:

:evil: Hey, we all have our hobbies and distractions! :wasted:

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Look like Josh Gordon will indeed be out for the season on suspension. Its a damn shame this guy was on the verge of stardom after the season he had.


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Look like Josh Gordon will indeed be out for the season on suspension. Its a damn shame this guy was on the verge of stardom after the season he had.


Saw it about 1:30 this afternoon.
Probably my favorite player, I was on that bandwagon the year prior after a friend of mine in Cleveland tipped me off about him.

Forget about what this says about him as a person for a minute........ what message does this give to other players?
So Josh Gordon has had over 70 (yes SEVENTY) passed tests in the last year or two, has one (of two) samples that doesn't meet the NFL standards, and he gets a year suspension while Ray Rice can beat his woman and misses 2 games.

A friend of mine here is on the verge of quitting watching the NFL because of Roger Goodell and his antiquated policy, and I am starting to see his point. (I know much of this is based on the other rules and not Goodell himself but still)

Putting my fondness for Gordon aside, you have to admit something needs to be addressed.



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Look like Josh Gordon will indeed be out for the season on suspension. Its a damn shame this guy was on the verge of stardom after the season he had.


Saw it about 1:30 this afternoon.
Probably my favorite player, I was on that bandwagon the year prior after a friend of mine in Cleveland tipped me off about him.

Forget about what this says about him as a person for a minute........ what message does this give to other players?
So Josh Gordon has had over 70 (yes SEVENTY) passed tests in the last year or two, has one (of two) samples that doesn't meet the NFL standards, and he gets a year suspension while Ray Rice can beat his woman and misses 2 games.

A friend of mine here is on the verge of quitting watching the NFL because of Roger Goodell and his antiquated policy, and I am starting to see his point. (I know much of this is based on the other rules and not Goodell himself but still)

Putting my fondness for Gordon aside, you have to admit something needs to be addressed.



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Yeah I totally agree - not sure how smoking pot is worse than beating up a woman. Also you are correct Goodell is becoming like a dictator - its his way or no way. Over the years he has just been ruining the NFL little by little. I'm all for player safety but pretty soon its gonna be 2-hand touch. These athletes understand the dangerous nature of the game and choose to play the game.


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:| Something else must be going on with Josh Gordon. What if you tested the Denver Broncos DAILY? I have to think that there is something behind the scenes they don't want people to know. It's very queer. :?

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So who has been in the league the longest and still not made it to the playoffs at all?

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I am pretty sure it's Dr. Moreau. I actually think he may be the only one not to make playoffs at least once. There was one season he made it close, came in 5th.

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So who has been in the league the longest and still not made it to the playoffs at all?

TZDZ...you need a championship bad bro. It could be your year.


I made the playoffs 4 consecutive years, and it may well have been the first 4 years I played in the league, I would have to look back.
I know I have made the playoffs since then too, in fact, I made the playoffs better than 50% of all leagues I have been in.
Considering only 40% of the teams in a given year actually (in a 10 man leagues, 4 teams make it), all things considered I am finishing above average long term, but some bad luck in the playoffs has kept me away from a championship.

Four years in a row I lost in the first round.
The odds of that happening are approximately .0625.... which is just above 6%. :yack:
(.5 x .5 x .5 x .5)
A team is essentially 50/50 on a given matchup. (obviously this changes with team dynamics and matchups and overall player performance, but I'm considering this as an average for math purposes)
So no matter how you look at it, I've had a bit of bad luck.....but thats how it goes.
No different than poker, make the good decisions and long term you will win your fair share.
As long as I continue to make the playoffs more often than not, I'm satisfied and I am doing something right.

I know one guy that plays in 2-3 leagues a year.
He never studies on "sleepers", he never thinks about how he is going to draft. (he knows who the better players are, especially veterans, but he certainly doesn't know anything about rookies in advance)
He even admits I "draft with my gut". (though he always asks me who he should get off the wire when he wants an opinion for a pickup)
In the last 3-4 years he has won 5 championships, and he will even admit he has been "lucky". He says "my waiver wire pickups over the years have always seemed to just work out", and he has "never had many injuries".
This person is just lucky at times, and thats that.
(now, also realize he plays in 12 man leagues, and 6 teams make the playoffs, so 50% of the league makes the playoffs, so theoretically he gets more chances than 10 man league participants, since its easier to actually make the playoffs and move on)


We were discussing it the other night. Its a fair amount of skill actually making the playoffs, but then it turns into a one game crapshoot. One loss and you are done.

Sooner or later I will win a few.
It just hasn't worked out yet.

I love it when people win say 3 championships in a 5-6 year period, and they think they are "the best" or "that much better than the others".
They are just fooling themselves....but, thats the way of the world.



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Kudos to TZ DZ - he is correct about making playoffs the first 4 years of the league (2007-2010), no playoffs in 2011, a return in 2012, and no playoffs in 2013. 5/7 is pretty damn good.

I was in the first 5 playoffs, no playoffs in 2012, but back in last season. I had 3 first place finishes and a second place finish, but I am almost certain only one of those 4 earned me money (I want to say the first 3 seasons were played simply for fun). That's what happens to me in fantasy football -- I do better when there is no money at stake. In my other league, I have not won anything since we started playing for money. I took first place the last year it was free, then made playoffs the first year we put up cash but came in 4th and took home no money. Since then, I have not even made playoffs. I am thankful to at least have won the PtE league at least once. I have faired a bit better with fantasy baseball, winning just about every 3 seasons.

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Al -- go to Commissioner Tool -- under Edit Schedules, you can find the ability to choose, check off and save for rivalry weeks.

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Now that we have both drafts in the books (the PTE league, and the bigger "2 OUTER" league which several of us here are in)
any concerns or issues with your lineups?

I have talked with Alsunday a bit, so I know where he stands, but I'm wondering what Lazy thinks of his lineups, and his team in "2 OUTER" more specifically.
Thats gotta be fun co-managing a team with your brother, though the drafts might be a bit more of a challenge.




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Overall, I like both team lineups, but as I mentioned earlier, never comfortable with them. I can like a team as much as I want, doesn't change the fact that they can disappoint me week to week. Both my brother and I really like our two outer lineup....not thrilled with the report card explanation. Doesn't make much sense really - how can we get a B but then predicted to finish 9th? I understand it's based on projections for points, but it all just seems dumb. Like I said, we love it all and really look forward to the start this week (Thursday - game 1).

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Ok so season started and my 2 starters have already underperformed.

I blame my cousin Chris who forced my hand to take Aaron Rodgers when he took Brees ( believe last time i had him in this league didn't go too well - fact checked and it was 2012 when I went 6-8). For whatever reason I just don't trust him - he stinks when I have him but who is gonna turn down Rodgers.

Also Lacey suffers possible concussion - which is why I stack up on rb's - but man my 1st round pick already iffy now just doesn't sit well with me. Gotta pray the rest of my team overperforms now the rest of the week since I am 1-3 verse my other cousin Nick the last 2 years.


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Ok so season started and my 2 starters have already underperformed.

I blame my cousin Chris who forced my hand to take Aaron Rodgers when he took Brees ( believe last time i had him in this league didn't go too well - fact checked and it was 2012 when I went 6-8).



So basically you are saying you blame Chris because YOU drafted a particular player........... :ROTF:
Come on man, thats silly, I know you are venting because Lacy had a concussion, but get real.

I typically have 3-4 major injuries in each league every year at RB, you just learn to deal with it.
Like, in a bigger money league (which by the way Chris is also in) I drafted Andre Ellington as my RB1 there, and he NEVER SAW THE FIELD THIS YEAR YET and is already out 4-6 weeks minimum.
No need in pointing out that "Ellington in an injury risk", in fact Lacy is exactly the same. Not only did Lacy have a concussion last year, but there were all kinds of "injury flags" on Lacy before the season started last year. Many experts were shying away from him because of this. (if you remember many didn't know if they liked Franklin or Lacy better)
And this was LAST year, then he blew up and had a great season.

And on the Aaron Rodgers note, if you don't want him then next week give me Rodgers for Stafford. Stafford is arguably the #4 fantasy QB behind Manning,Brees and Rodgers so I don't mind. Send the trade offer, since you aren't likely to get a better offer, the ones with the other QBs aren't going to budge.
Not to mention, Rodgers played the best defense in the NFL, AT HOME in perhaps the toughest place to play and had an off night. Were you expecting 4 TDs? If he is going to have a bad night, its going to be there for sure.

By the way, since I like discussing this stuff, you mentioned somewhere early in this thread, or one of the other ones, that you "weren't going to draft a backup QB". You remember that? I believe it was late last season nearing the playoffs in possibly another league.... and you were mentioning you wished you had more RB depth.
I'm curious as to why you did draft another QB/Newton and didn't instead opt for more RB depth. (which might have been a help since Lacy is about to miss time)
(just reread this thread, and that material is on page 3)

I'm not starting shite, just curious as to why you said you weren't going to get a backup QB/aiming for more RB depth, then you got a second QB late anyway.
Was it perhaps you saw alot of value on Cam later in the draft???
I'm just curious as to why you "went against" what you said you might do.
Obviously, had you snagged another RB, you might be feeling a little more secure at this point.

EDIT-You got Cam Newton in round 9. Some of the RBs still available at that time were -Lamar Miller, Stevan Ridley,Danny Woodhead, Carlos Hyde, Darren Sproles, Pierre Thomas, Fred Jackson and a few others.
Now I'm just listing these since I brought up the draft order, but personally I most certainly would have rather had the RB depth since the injuries occur there more frequently.
(now, that aside, if I drafted RGIII or Vick or someone, in that case I get a backup.........and a "trade bait" QB grab is different too)
This may have been why you got Newton.



In other fantasy news, I picked up Josh Gordon in all 3 of my money leagues. Thursday night word came out the NFLPA is trying to "finish up" some new agreements, and it may affect the punishments on Gordon, Welker and a select few others. (speculation on Blackmon) The punishments might be reduced and *possibly* be eliminated in some cases.
Its about time the NFL started rewriting some of its antiquated bullshit drug laws, this could very well be the first step.



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Ok so season started and my 2 starters have already underperformed.

I blame my cousin Chris who forced my hand to take Aaron Rodgers when he took Brees ( believe last time i had him in this league didn't go too well - fact checked and it was 2012 when I went 6-8).



So basically you are saying you blame Chris because YOU drafted a particular player........... :ROTF:
Come on man, thats silly, I know you are venting because Lacy had a concussion, but get real.

I typically have 3-4 major injuries in each league every year at RB, you just learn to deal with it.
Like, in a bigger money league (which by the way Chris is also in) I drafted Andre Ellington as my RB1 there, and he NEVER SAW THE FIELD THIS YEAR YET and is already out 4-6 weeks minimum.
No need in pointing out that "Ellington in an injury risk", in fact Lacy is exactly the same. Not only did Lacy have a concussion last year, but there were all kinds of "injury flags" on Lacy before the season started last year. Many experts were shying away from him because of this. (if you remember many didn't know if they liked Franklin or Lacy better)
And this was LAST year, then he blew up and had a great season.

And on the Aaron Rodgers note, if you don't want him then next week give me Rodgers for Stafford. Stafford is arguably the #4 fantasy QB behind Manning,Brees and Rodgers so I don't mind. Send the trade offer, since you aren't likely to get a better offer, the ones with the other QBs aren't going to budge.
Not to mention, Rodgers played the best defense in the NFL, AT HOME in perhaps the toughest place to play and had an off night. Were you expecting 4 TDs? If he is going to have a bad night, its going to be there for sure.

By the way, since I like discussing this stuff, you mentioned somewhere early in this thread, or one of the other ones, that you "weren't going to draft a backup QB". You remember that? I believe it was late last season nearing the playoffs in possibly another league.... and you were mentioning you wished you had more RB depth.
I'm curious as to why you did draft another QB/Newton and didn't instead opt for more RB depth. (which might have been a help since Lacy is about to miss time)
(just reread this thread, and that material is on page 3)

I'm not starting shite, just curious as to why you said you weren't going to get a backup QB/aiming for more RB depth, then you got a second QB late anyway.
Was it perhaps you saw alot of value on Cam later in the draft???
I'm just curious as to why you "went against" what you said you might do.
Obviously, had you snagged another RB, you might be feeling a little more secure at this point.

EDIT-You got Cam Newton in round 9. Some of the RBs still available at that time were -Lamar Miller, Stevan Ridley,Danny Woodhead, Carlos Hyde, Darren Sproles, Pierre Thomas, Fred Jackson and a few others.
Now I'm just listing these since I brought up the draft order, but personally I most certainly would have rather had the RB depth since the injuries occur there more frequently.
(now, that aside, if I drafted RGIII or Vick or someone, in that case I get a backup.........and a "trade bait" QB grab is different too)
This may have been why you got Newton.



In other fantasy news, I picked up Josh Gordon in all 3 of my money leagues. Thursday night word came out the NFLPA is trying to "finish up" some new agreements, and it may affect the punishments on Gordon, Welker and a select few others. (speculation on Blackmon) The punishments might be reduced and *possibly* be eliminated in some cases.
Its about time the NFL started rewriting some of its antiquated bullshit drug laws, this could very well be the first step.



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I browsed the 3rd page and came up with this quote " To be honest I might take your advice TDZD and not draft 2 QB's in the future." key word being might - which I know see you wrote haha. I'm not really blaming my cousin..im just saying I really wanted brees and he forced me to go with option B. Also since Rodgers was a bit injury prone last year felt I may need a suitable backup.

In terms of trading for Stafford - the jury is still out on him - didn't have a great seasons past 2 years and not sure I'm willing to take the gamble yet. With that said I indeed like him - but INT are a tad high for my liking.

Drafted Cam because he has tremendous trade value if he duplicates last season - with the rib injury who knows my gamble might not pan out.

I drafted 5 RB's which I assumed would be enough.

You named some guys who obviously value wise why would anyone choose them over Newton who like I stated had trade value.

Lamar Miller (garbage whenever he starts - drafted Moreno who I predict gets most of the carries this season, Stevan Ridley - Patriots were thinking of cutting him and they have 2 other guys who could steal carries Vereen and White ,Danny Woodhead (might mouse isn't my cup of tea), Carlos Hyde (only has value if Gore is in decline), Darren Sproles (with Shady might not get his normal amount of work to be fantasy worthy), Pierre Thomas (another RB by comitte split 3 ways - no thanks, Fred Jackson (old and can't stand the buffalo situation - Spiller deserves to be number 1 back) - You could agree or disagree with my assessment but ultimately this is my opinion on these guys and I'm sticking to it.


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Oh, I didn't say you should or shouldn't have, I was just thinking from the tone of your post back then, that you would be drafting more RBs this year.
(possibly not drafting a secondary QB)

Most of those guys aren't exactly stellar, but I could easily see Ridley getting RB2 work.
We all know what Sproles is at this point.

But the steal of the draft oddly enough , may be one Fred Jackson.
They are talking about using Spiller heavily on kick and punt returns, and if thats the case, the potential injury factor skyrockets, and we all know he is brittle anyway, or his history tells us that SO FAR.

Lets be fair, that late in the draft all the picks are lottery tickets, you and I both know that much.(especially at RB)

With some new coaching at Detroit, improved QB accuracy and footwork is what has been preached on preseason, and should rightfully cut down on the Stafford INTs.
Interestingly enough, if you look back at Stafford last year, he was right near the top most of the season, and had about a 2-3 game decline, and one was in an outright blizzard.
I'm certainly not a Stafford homer, but at the prices you can get him for when drafting, I would just as soon take him than get (Brees Rodgers Manning) 2+ rounds earlier.

I think maybe you just might have been a little bitter last season, once you caught the injury bug in that other league.
In fact you mentioned I might have jinxed you. :ROTF:

Good luck this week boys.......................


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To keep those interested up to date:

Week 1

I squeaked by TZ DZ to go 1-0; my cousin The Goon Squad blew out my other cousin J&G's Misfits (jcrm16 on this board); alsunday defeated my cousin's wife R&R RazorBlades; Whit lost to Plow Kings (aka meat bag here on the board); my brother lost to my co-worker Bieber Fever (Bieber is his last name, really).

Week 2 is under way with the game played last night. Hope to pull out another win this week against my cousin Misfits.


On a side note, the NFL is getting slammed with all the Ray Rice shite. Now there's news that Adrian Peterson has been indicted for injuring a child. Wow, just wow.

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To keep those interested up to date:

Week 1

I squeaked by TZ DZ to go 1-0; my cousin The Goon Squad blew out my other cousin J&G's Misfits (jcrm16 on this board); alsunday defeated my cousin's wife R&R RazorBlades; Whit lost to Plow Kings (aka meat bag here on the board); my brother lost to my co-worker Bieber Fever (Bieber is his last name, really).

Week 2 is under way with the game played last night. Hope to pull out another win this week against my cousin Misfits.


On a side note, the NFL is getting slammed with all the Ray Rice shite. Now there's news that Adrian Peterson has been indicted for injuring a child. Wow, just wow.



Yeah man NFL is getting nuts man. Very shocked at AP, especially with what happened to his other kid just last year. Obviously what he did didn't cause death like his ex girls bf last year but never the less it isn't right. Apparently from what I read he disciplined his kid with a tree branch and cause cuts and bruises to his back, butt, legs and ankles - so I assumed he didn't just hit him once based on that info. Apparently this is the way he was brought up - not that it makes it right and justifies it. Obviously we can only go by what the media gives us but doesn't sound great and the Vikings have already deactivated him for Sundays game.

On another note with new drug policy in place its highly likely Gordon's suspension goes from a year to 8 games. Based on the fact that domestic violence is upped to 6 games, I still believe Gordon is getting the shaft. I don't know about anyone else but domestic violence where you are hurting someone else is more of an offense than smoking weed. Nevertheless those that invested in Gordon might have a nice payoff starting week 9.

Good luck to all this week - hopefully I can put a "W" in the win column.


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TZ DZ grabbed Gordon back in both PtE and two outer; I believe Dougies picked him up in our league.

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TZ DZ grabbed Gordon back in both PtE and two outer; I believe Dougies picked him up in our league.



Yeah he is pretty much gone in all leagues haha.


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Well I am looking for another RB 2ish runner, and Gordon is possibly on the trading block.
I know he won't be giving you any contribution until late season, but I am not letting a definite top 3 wideout go for some chump either.

So if anyone is wanting Gordon, put up an offer here.

On that note, I am also willing to let Steve Smith go (possibly packaged with an RB) for a decent starting RB also.
Part of me thinks this could be Steve Smith's last really good season, and we are starting to see what he can do with a better passer. (not Cam Newton)
The guy has been a target monster thus far, and if he keeps up this pace he will have about an 8 TD/1500-ish season.
Flacco has reportedly been very high on him, much moreso than Torrey Smith.


So if any of you are looking for help at WR, I am interested in a decent RB.

And I agree on Gordon........ :(
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Being a Vikings fan and having drafted Peterson #1 this year in our league, I'd say I've lost all enthusiasm for this. That and already, IN WEEK F&@KING TWO!!!, six of my players are injured. Four are Probable and two are Questionable (including my #1 WR), and the other I dropped. I'm already scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I don't see Peterson coming back and I frankly don't care. I was already getting sick of the NFL and this was before the recent domestic abuse crap. It's just become TOO big of a deal and for whatever reason, I tend to back away from things that become insanely popular. The same thing is happening to college football.

I blame it on Fantasy Football (so I'm partially to blame) and ESPN.

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IN WEEK F&@KING TWO!!!, six of my players are injured.

I don't see Peterson coming back and I frankly don't care. I was already getting sick of the NFL and this was before the recent domestic abuse crap. It's just become TOO big of a deal and for whatever reason, I tend to back away from things that become insanely popular.
I blame it on Fantasy Football (so I'm partially to blame) and ESPN.


Well, I have been very unlucky in my FF career with injuries, it only really starts to suck once you hit the 6 injury mark. :ROTF:
I think I lost 5 of my top 6 picks to injury a couple of years back in this league,at least for a substantial period of time anyway. What can you do....

Personally, I'm somewhat of a Peterson fan, but lets be honest here. (and kind of a Vikes fan too, I like underdogs )
He has like 6 or 7 kids or more, ALL WITH DIFFERENT WOMEN.
Sooner or later you learn to wear a condom. No wonder he runs like a man possessed, for if he doesn't, he will be broke the rest of his life. Between the kids and greedy women and whores surrounding him, its a wonder he can even eat as it is.
Regardless, he has been sort of the "darling" of the league, and this is going to hurt football. In some ways more than the Ray Rice incident, which frankly to me looked like we didn't know the whole story.


On the NFL- Let's be honest again. Its full of thugs.
I was reading something a few years ago, and it basically said (I'm going to paraphrase here) "10 out of 100, which is 10% of the NFL are essentially problem children".
In that 10%, you have people with gang relations......... people constantly on and off substance abuse policy/drug users, people that have checkered pasts with violence away from the gang crap, alcohol abusers, widespread PEDs which the NFL seems like they might try to start combating that now.
Oh wait, another big part of that 10% are athletes who were "pushed through college", people who didn't necessarily have good education standards and ethics in school.

We certainly can't blame this on fantasy football. Its probably a bunch of factors, but I think part of it is society, and the COLLEGES are a big part of this too, no way around it. Much of it obviously is on the individual in question.

Looks to me like you are just sick of the "overexposure" of this garbage on the news.
I guess I circumvent all that since I never watch ESPN nor anything, other than something directly related to my fantasy players in specific.
You may remember the first year I played fantasy football back in 2007. Chris and a couple of others urged me to take part.
I had not watched any NFL games, barring a select few minutes of a Super Bowl here and there prior to joining fantasy in many years.
I mentioned to Chris a few years back, he may well remember, that I "blamed him" for my love of fantasy. :twisted:
My point is, I guess if I didn't play fantasy, I wouldn't watch any of this crap anymore, and honestly had quit years ago.

Stepping back and looking at this, I may be the worst of the lot here.
Since I don't care about the NFL and most sports in general anymore,unless it directly affects me/my fantasy teams.

Maybe I have become yet another part of the "ME, ME, ME" society that we have been talking about for some time now.
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You most certainly can place the overexposure of the NFL on Fantasy Football. People are following NFL teams less and less with their own drafted Fantasy players substituted as their main concern over pulling for a team. This will eventually destroy live attendance at stadiums with on-demand style "Red Zone" cable/satellite packages becoming the hot ticket. It will get to a point where teams are no longer associated with cities, instead being sponsored by corporations. Most people will be more than okay with just drafting someone from the Mayo Clinic Vikings or the Microsoft Seahawks for their fantasy teams.

I'm pretty sure I'm also sick of all of the "holier than thou" reporters and the mob mentality that the media is currently nurturing.

I'm not sticking up for Rice or Peterson. Frankly, I question if either one knows what they did is even approaching wrong in their own minds. When I was growing up, I knew many kids that got the holy Hell beat out of them. I couldn't believe it then as a youth, and I still can't believe it now.

As a father of two who has never let his anger escalate to even so much as spanking his kids, I can say without question that "spare the rod, spoil the child" was likely first said by someone who liked to beat their kids. It's bullsh*t plain and simple.

But to express such critical outrage now seems like the correct, acceptable reaction for most expressing them so vocally in public. People's reactions to issues have morphed from "What do I think?" to "How should I react?". Thank you, Political Correctness!

ESPN has turned itself into some sort of morality barometer, but I think we all know that reporting on criminality and controversy brings more advertising revenue than the night's scores and highlights. And they know it too and people are buying it.

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I mentioned to Chris a few years back, he may well remember, that I "blamed him" for my love of fantasy. :twisted:

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You most certainly can place the overexposure of the NFL on Fantasy Football. People are following NFL teams less and less with their own drafted Fantasy players substituted as their main concern over pulling for a team. This will eventually destroy live attendance at stadiums with on-demand style "Red Zone" cable/satellite packages becoming the hot ticket. It will get to a point where teams are no longer associated with cities, instead being sponsored by corporations. Most people will be more than okay with just drafting someone from the Mayo Clinic Vikings or the Microsoft Seahawks for their fantasy teams.

I'm pretty sure I'm also sick of all of the "holier than thou" reporters and the mob mentality that the media is currently nurturing.

I'm not sticking up for Rice or Peterson. Frankly, I question if either one knows what they did is even approaching wrong in their own minds. When I was growing up, I knew many kids that got the holy Hell beat out of them. I couldn't believe it then as a youth, and I still can't believe it now.

As a father of two who has never let his anger escalate to even so much as spanking his kids, I can say without question that "spare the rod, spoil the child" was likely first said by someone who liked to beat their kids. It's bullsh*t plain and simple.

But to express such critical outrage now seems like the correct, acceptable reaction for most expressing them so vocally in public. People's reactions to issues have morphed from "What do I think?" to "How should I react?". Thank you, Political Correctness!

ESPN has turned itself into some sort of morality barometer, but I think we all know that reporting on criminality and controversy brings more advertising revenue than the night's scores and highlights. And they know it too and people are buying it.


You are so right on many levels. I can say that fantasy sports helped my enjoyment of the sport without losing my fandom for a particular team. I will always be a Yankees, Giants, Rangers and Knicks fan no matter what. Making picks in high school as part of a charity pool is what jump-started my interest in football. Hockey had been dormant in my world for a long time until about 3 years ago I made the plunge to join a fantasy hockey league just to re-introduce myself to the sport and get a better grasp on players/teams. I can see how that would not necessarily apply to others, though I think if you're truly a sports fan, you will always root for your home team no matter what (even if you still want your team to give your fantasy player a few extra yards or maybe a TD, but leave it for garbage time).

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You most certainly can place the overexposure of the NFL on Fantasy Football. People are following NFL teams less and less with their own drafted Fantasy players substituted as their main concern over pulling for a team. This will eventually destroy live attendance at stadiums with on-demand style "Red Zone" cable/satellite packages becoming the hot ticket. It will get to a point where teams are no longer associated with cities, instead being sponsored by corporations. Most people will be more than okay with just drafting someone from the Mayo Clinic Vikings or the Microsoft Seahawks for their fantasy teams.


But to express such critical outrage now seems like the correct, acceptable reaction for most expressing them so vocally in public. People's reactions to issues have morphed from "What do I think?" to "How should I react?". Thank you, Political Correctness!


Whit, you wrote "You most certainly can place the overexposure of the NFL on Fantasy Football."
Please go back and reread my post in question. I think you may have misinterpreted it.

I actually agree with what you are saying. But the "overexposure" I was referring to is the constant barrage of "Ray Rice/Adrian Peterson/next gossip bullshit" we are being subjected to, if you actually watch ESPN.
Which as I was saying, I don't watch it at all.
Its back to how things are in todays society. Political Correctness as you mentioned, and also the sensationalism of "lesser events" since the public just has to "get worked up" over something. Everyone has to get involved, has to know others business...... has to express their own opinion. ME, ME, ME. More drama, more drama, more drama. Social media is the perfect bitching outlet.


And since you pointed it out, I do agree that fantasy football is absolutely making the NFL being viewed in a different light.
Like I was describing above, personally I am the perfect example of that. Since with no fantasy, I seriously doubt I would watch much if any NFL programming, barring a fluke few minutes of a Super Bowl if I'm out playing poker somewhere. I certainly had given up on it long before I started playing fantasy regularly.


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