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Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:33 am 
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Episode 16.1 - The Elevator

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Original Air Date: January 31, 1986
Stars: Stephen Geoffreys, Robert Prescott
Writer: Ray Bradbury
Director: R. L. Thomas

Two brothers stealing their father's growth serum developed to ensure a plentiful food supply may have bitten off more than they can chew.



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I really wasn't too impressed with this one, short and pointless. Although not quite that bad almost reminded me of the awful NG episode "The Nature of the enemy". 2/10


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Definitely not among my favorites. Another Bradbury story adaption. Unfortunately, where the Bradbury tale reads very well, this adaptation doesn't give you the same satisfaction.

Stephen Geoffreys aka Evil Ed from "Fright Night" is interesting to see here, post Fright Night and pre his gay porn movies. Shame he didn't find better roles then cheesy horror films, he may have had a better career.

Like Rorschach, I found this short and rather pointless. The atmosphere of the short story is lost.

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Sub-par episode here, and as mentioned, not a good adaptation of Bradbury's story. Though I didn't find it as bad as you guys, it really was a silly short. I sort of liked the build-up, creepy abandoned environment with the questioning of the large rats and cats and what got to them. I never made the connection to 'The Nature of the Enemy', but the endings are similar -- nice connection Rorschach.

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very much a blackout type episode ala Night Gallery. left me with a :wtf: feeling 20+ years ago and still does.


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OK, I have left my thoughts on this one (and write up) off the board, for several reasons.

I am honestly going to rewatch this one, this week hopefully, and then jot down a few things.
BUT I know that many here and several other places don't care for this one.
While on the other hand, our resident tough critic "whitsbrain" has always placed this one among his favorites, if memory serves correctly.
I am not sure why he hasn't commented on this one here, unless maybe its simply because he figures he is in the minority?? :wtf:

Share your thoughts on this one if you will.
You seem to be a "self-proclaimed" :dance: harsh critic at times, and you being the polar opposite on this episode is interesting to say the least.

I am going to try and come to this ones defense this week, after seeing it again.
(I don't remember it being a top notch episode, but I can't say I remember it being bottom of the barrel either)
This is one of perhaps 30 or so I saw when it originally aired back in the mid-80's, and that truthfully might have been the last time I saw it too.


Lets hear it dude......

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I can't...I just can't. I can't have this be another "Nature of the Enemy" episode for me. I spent a lot of time debating/defending that one. But I guess that's what these boards are for.

The reason I haven't rated this is because I was going to rewatch it. I think I was originally taken by the shock factor of its conclusion. This was also what I liked so much about "The Nature of the Enemy". In both cases, it totally clouded my ability to see what a true piece of shite both episodes are. I'm trying to come up with a fair way to say "it sucked, but I liked it" at the same time, and then trying to put a silly number on it.

Wow! I have to say, the title of resident tough critic is quite a surprise. I really hope that doesn't mean anyone thinks I know what the hell I'm talking about, because I would have no idea how to make a movie or TV show.

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whitsbrain wrote:
Wow! I have to say, the title of resident tough critic is quite a surprise. I really hope that doesn't mean anyone thinks I know what the hell I'm talking about, because I would have no idea how to make a movie or TV show.


Well I like reading your reviews, might not agree with all your choices but you always give a good reason for why you've rated the things you do, sure it's same with TZ DZ Fan too :)


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I can't...I just can't. I can't have this be another "Nature of the Enemy" episode for me. I spent a lot of time debating/defending that one. But I guess that's what these boards are for.

The reason I haven't rated this is because I was going to rewatch it. I think I was originally taken by the shock factor of its conclusion. This was also what I liked so much about "The Nature of the Enemy". In both cases, it totally clouded my ability to see what a true piece of shite both episodes are. I'm trying to come up with a fair way to say "it sucked, but I liked it" at the same time, and then trying to put a silly number on it.

Wow! I have to say, the title of resident tough critic is quite a surprise. I really hope that doesn't mean anyone thinks I know what the hell I'm talking about, because I would have no idea how to make a movie or TV show.


You know, you don't have to "fit in" with the majority....... (Hell, I suppose none of us really do in that sense, seeing as we all like these types of sci-fi and fantasy tv shows :dance: )
I was just wondering why you ranked this one among your favorites. Truth be known, I have NEVER heard a TZ fan include this one, not even one person rank this one among their favorites, until you.
Not that it is necessarily a good or bad thing, but to me its interesting.
In a sense, people like us, who like these type shows tend to go for similar type episodes, and when one person (who's opinion I think highly of) seems to like something a bit "outside the box", then I think a bit.
I think back and try and figure what it is about the episode that I might have missed when I viewed it.

I will try and get to this one this week, and check it out again.
I remember it being short, and a shock-type ending that I do remember. I don't think I liked it alot, but I just didn't remember it being as bad as everyone seems to think, thats all.

Oh, that "tough critic" title, I know its around here somewhere, and several of us have mentioned it, but it was in fact YOU who said thats what you were first, although I can't remember where or when you wrote that.

Now, I know its been forever, but "Nature of the Enemy", well thats another. I seem to remember coming to your defense in a small way on that one also.
We can crank up discussion on that one again in the appropriate place, but I am pretty certain we are the only ones here who like that one.


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"Nature of the Enemy" is leaps and bounds more entertaining than this episode. This episode had a great premise and story to base itself on, but, complete failure in its cast and execution. Still, it's worth a watch but don't expect any lasting Zone quality.

Whit as a tough critic - maybe. I've always read his posts as, "he likes what he likes," without any superfluous nonsense to back up his case. (Unlike myself, might I add :D ) I wouldn't say he's tough - more like a honest and fair appraiser of the visual medium presented. He knows going in that any "Godzilla" movie is not going to be a "Citizen Kane" and he doesn't judge it based on that comparison.


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OK, watched this one again the other morning.

Close to about what I had remembered............ nothing special, but not a "zero" either.
A few things stood out.

The acting was "fair", not stellar, merely sufficient.
Now, bear with me, but I watched this on my small old tv, and the special effects weren't stellar.
In fact, I think it hurt the end terribly.

Read the spoiler -

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To me, it was not easy to see that it was indeed a spider that came down the shaft at the end. So that coupled with the fact we get to hear "ITS A SPIDER!!" in this weird panicky voice, makes it a bit hokey.


One thing that did work, was the setting and atmosphere. Very dark, and a bit confined, it just had potential like DrM said, but the ending detracted a bit and could have been better.
The ending, was sort of "thrust upon us" all at once, and essentially we have LITTLE CLUE about it, until we see the rats that were getting progressively larger.

I can't bring myself to say its bottom of the barrel, but I can't place it among my favorites either.
I think its slightly below average, perhaps a "4".
Actually, it could have been quite a bit stronger with a few small touches. It just seemed a bit, well, hurriedly slapped together.


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Yep. Now that I think about it, I may have used the term "tough critic" when describing myself. DrM is right. I "like what I like". Most often, I don't really try and defend my point of view. He's also correct that I do "get" that even the best Godzilla or '50s B-movie is never as good as Citizen Kane. My reviews are based on my enjoyment. If that skews the poll results, oh well, then I'm a spoiler.

"The Elevator" and "Nature of the Enemy" are no "Nightcrawlers" or "The Caterpillar" but I rated them high because I enjoyed them for what they were not because I feel the need to compare them to something that the majority has decided is better.

Here's a good example...I reviewed "King Kong Vs. Godzilla" and gave it a rating of "7". I loved the corny dialogue and the ugly Kong costume and stupid fight scenes. I know they're bad, but I thought they were a blast. Compare that to the "5" that I gave "The Third Man". The visual details, interesting direction and performance of Orson Welles are far superior to anything in "King Kong Vs. Godzilla", but it was frickin' BORING to me. Why would I give it a higher rating than "KKVG" which I thought was loads of fun? So people reading my review think I'm smart or a movie know-it-all (snob)? I don't give a shite about that.

So there you have it! :dance:

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whitsbrain wrote:
Yep. Now that I think about it, I may have used the term "tough critic" when describing myself. DrM is right. I "like what I like". Most often, I don't really try and defend my point of view.

"The Elevator" and "Nature of the Enemy" are no "Nightcrawlers" or "The Caterpillar" but I rated them high because I enjoyed them for what they were not because I feel the need to compare them to something that the majority has decided is better.



Yes, before you have also said "I like what I like, and thats the way it is". ;) No biggie.
You certainly don't have to "defend your likes" here, unless you want to.

I was just wondering some of the reasons why I thought you ranked this among your favorites.
Not that it should or shouldn't be, but simply because I have never seen many regard it like that.
I also find it interesting, that you and I both, can watch this episode, and "The Nature of the Enemy", without wanting to throw the tv set out of the window. Just a common like, I guess.... they say great minds think alike. :ROTF:

I certainly don't like picking episodes apart, and thats one thing I ranted on over at the old joint.
Discussion there sometimes got a little ugly, when people trashed other people's favorite eps, and essesntially tore it apart, in an effort to make another think it wasn't a good episode.
Nobody does that here though, and thats a good thing.

I hope you read my post (and spoiler),as I don't think this is quite the "clunker" that many others think.
I think this one could have benefitted from a bit more time too. (and possibly some slightly better effects)
It seems crammed together, like I mentioned.
But honestly, now that I think about it, they probably cut it down to the bare bones anyway, to fit it in with "To See the Invisible Man", and "Tooth or Consequences".
TSTIM, I think is a spectacular episode..........TOC, now that one I don't like.

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whitsbrain wrote:
Here's a good example...I reviewed "King Kong Vs. Godzilla" and gave it a rating of "7"... Compare that to the "5" that I gave "The Third Man". The visual details, interesting direction and performance of Orson Welles are far superior to anything in "King Kong Vs. Godzilla", but it was frickin' BORING to me.

So there you have it! :dance:


Now I ask you, who could argue with that!?! :D


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A 3 from me. Put simply, it's just poor.

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I think I agree, but I didn't really get what happened in this episode. So do they get killed by some creature that's been enlarged from this growth serum?

So what happened here anyway? I know there's a way to do a spoiler warning here with the hidden text.

Wow, didn't know that guy ended up doing gay porn. I remember him in another teen movie I was in the '80s called Fraternity Vacation.


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SPOILERS: the dialogue was weak, paraphrasing: 'Remember the lab?' ' Yeah, I remember the lab.'
The story was too simple, and repetitive. And yeah the ending was hard to see, yes it was hokey for the actor
to shout" Spider", but that was the only way I knew what it was. Also, yes it was short episode, but nothing was really explained,
did the father make a growth formula, did he use it on a spider, or did the spider get into by accident, and then grew and killed
the father? Just too many unresolved questions.

Yes, not the worst episode, to be honest, the concept of finding a dark lab is intriguing, this could make for a cool movie,
where the sons find that their father did all kinds of experiments, like mutations, gene splicing, evolving humans or animals, clones, even creating vampires or werewolves,etc... and then they( the sons) become the experiments. Yet, none of that happened, sadly...thus, the low score.

Whit, I am with the rest of the gang, your opinions are great, and unique, and I feel we all are the same in that all of are distinct in our preferences.
For example, I rate 'Black Leather Jackets' high, even though I know its camp, and a lot of fans do not like it, I personally like the visuals of aliens on motor bikes, and the eye in the tv, thus: " To Each Their Own".

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